From jhframe at dcn.org Thu Nov 1 07:49:11 2007 From: jhframe at dcn.org (Jim Frame) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:49:11 -0700 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] ARIN Legacy RSA Message-ID: <4729E767.6010309@dcn.org> The DCN Executive Committee has requested that TechOps provide a recommendation on the ARIN registration services agreement issue. A link to the legacy RSA and FAQ may be found at http://www.arin.net/registration/legacy/index.html. The downside to not signing the RSA isn't clear to me, but may have operational ramifications. (Perhaps Rob can clarify this.) My own review of the legacy RSA indicates that it doesn't impose a material burden on DCN, even if we choose not to release any unused resources. I invite your comments so that we can formulate a recommendation to the ExCom. Thanks. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Frame jhframe at dcn.org (530) 756-8584 756-8201 (FAX) Frame Surveying & Mapping 609 A Street Davis, CA 95616 -----------------------< Davis Community Network >------------------- From jcrowell at dcn.davis.ca.us Thu Nov 1 11:13:31 2007 From: jcrowell at dcn.davis.ca.us (jcrowell at dcn.davis.ca.us) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [DCN-TechOps] ARIN Legacy RSA In-Reply-To: <4729E767.6010309@dcn.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Jim Frame wrote: > The DCN Executive Committee has requested that TechOps provide a > recommendation on the ARIN registration services agreement issue. A > link to the legacy RSA and FAQ may be found at > http://www.arin.net/registration/legacy/index.html. > > The downside to not signing the RSA isn't clear to me, but may have > operational ramifications. (Perhaps Rob can clarify this.) My own > review of the legacy RSA indicates that it doesn't impose a material > burden on DCN, even if we choose not to release any unused resources. > I don't see any downside to signing the RSA, but I'm still trying to hypothesize problem scenarios. The $100/yr annual fee seems more than fair. There are likely some technical problems should we decide to relinquish our hold on some of our address space, but they'd be ARIN's problem, probably not ours. Let me know whether it should be I who fills out the online form. (I may need some details about DCN contact information.) - Jack ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John M. Crowell Learn from the Past Davis Community Network Live for Today DCN Systems Manager Look to Tomorrow netadmin at dcn.davis.ca.us Take a Nap This Afternoon Sacramento Master Singers Music Librarian jcrowell at mastersingers.org ______________________________________________________________________ From omrob at omsoft.com Thu Nov 1 13:12:52 2007 From: omrob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson @ Omsoft) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:12:52 -0800 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] ARIN Legacy RSA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472A3344.8000004@omsoft.com> Hi >>The downside to not signing the RSA isn't clear to me, but may have >>operational ramifications. (Perhaps Rob can clarify this.) My own >>review of the legacy RSA indicates that it doesn't impose a material >>burden on DCN, even if we choose not to release any unused resources. >> >> >> >I dont think it would have ramifications if we don't sign. It clearly states on their web page they will not reclaim the space: > > Note that ARIN will not reclaim unutilized address space from legacy holders who sign this RSA, nor will ARIN attempt to take away legacy resources from organizations who choose not to sign it. However, signing the Legacy RSA contractually locks in a set of rights, and thus reduces the risk of future change to a minimum. Id go ahead and do it. It locks us in on these addresses at $100 a year until 2013 - AMAZING - and they will only increase by $25 per year after that pt. Id make sure any templates come from jcrowell at dcn.davis.ca.us and JC do all the interfacing, as it might minimize the need for additional documentation if they get it all rom the actual org contact from the legacy allocation. >I don't see any downside to signing the RSA, but I'm still >trying to hypothesize problem scenarios. The $100/yr annual fee >seems more than fair. > >There are likely some technical problems should we decide to >relinquish our hold on some of our address space, but they'd be >ARIN's problem, probably not ours. > >Let me know whether it should be I who fills out the online form. >(I may need some details about DCN contact information.) > > - Jack > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >John M. Crowell Learn from the Past > Davis Community Network Live for Today > DCN Systems Manager Look to Tomorrow > netadmin at dcn.davis.ca.us Take a Nap This Afternoon > Sacramento Master Singers > Music Librarian > jcrowell at mastersingers.org >______________________________________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >DCN-Technical-Committee mailing list >DCN-Technical-Committee at velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us >http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/dcn-technical-committee > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From omrob at omsoft.com Thu Nov 1 13:16:23 2007 From: omrob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson @ Omsoft) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:16:23 -0800 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] Fall Techops Meeting Message-ID: <472A3417.3030803@omsoft.com> HI Its time for the fall quarterly meeting of the DCN Tech Ops committee at Sudwerk Possible dates could be Thurs Nov 15th or 22nd 5:15 PM Issues to discuss: 1) Legacy RSA for 168.150.0.0 netblock 2) BGP Progress 3) Partner Needs assessment Any additional items let me know. Thanks RAN From jhframe at dcn.org Thu Nov 1 17:37:15 2007 From: jhframe at dcn.org (Jim Frame) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:37:15 -0700 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] ARIN Legacy RSA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472A713B.3070703@dcn.org> jcrowell at dcn.davis.ca.us wrote: > There are likely some technical problems should we decide to > relinquish our hold on some of our address space, but they'd be > ARIN's problem, probably not ours. At this point I can't see any significant advantage to releasing any of our address space. The financial impact of retaining the entire Class B block appears to be minimal, so my inclination is to maintain the status quo. > Let me know whether it should be I who fills out the online form. > (I may need some details about DCN contact information.) I agree that Jack should be the one to complete the application when and if a decision is made to do so. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Frame jhframe at dcn.org (530) 756-8584 756-8201 (FAX) Frame Surveying & Mapping 609 A Street Davis, CA 95616 -----------------------< Davis Community Network >------------------- From rdhobby at ucdavis.edu Thu Nov 1 17:57:04 2007 From: rdhobby at ucdavis.edu (Russ Hobby) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:57:04 -0700 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] ARIN Legacy RSA In-Reply-To: <472A713B.3070703@dcn.org> References: <472A713B.3070703@dcn.org> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071101175106.18cf3958@ucdavis.edu> At 05:37 PM 11/1/2007, Jim Frame wrote: >At this point I can't see any significant advantage to releasing any of >our address space. The financial impact of retaining the entire Class B >block appears to be minimal, so my inclination is to maintain the status >quo. I certainly agree that keeping the address space is in the best interests of DCN. Something else that DCN should start thinking about is getting some IPv6 space. This should be upstream provider independent address space so that maximum flexibility is maintained. Not that this has to be done right away, but some discussion on it could be started. The rest of the world is ahead of the US in IPv6, mainly because the US has so much IPv4 address space, but we will be coming to the point not too far down the road where the rest of the world will insist that it be IPv6. Russ From jhframe at dcn.org Sat Nov 3 08:29:34 2007 From: jhframe at dcn.org (Jim Frame) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:29:34 -0700 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] Fall Techops Meeting In-Reply-To: <472A3417.3030803@omsoft.com> References: <472A3417.3030803@omsoft.com> Message-ID: <472C93DE.3000902@dcn.org> Robert Nickerson @ Omsoft wrote: > Its time for the fall quarterly meeting of the DCN Tech Ops committee at > Sudwerk Possible dates could be Thurs Nov 15th or 22nd 5:15 PM Unless we're planning to have a turkey dinner at the meeting, I vote for the 15th. (The 22nd is Thanksgiving.) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Frame jhframe at dcn.org (530) 756-8584 756-8201 (FAX) Frame Surveying & Mapping 609 A Street Davis, CA 95616 -----------------------< Davis Community Network >------------------- From jhframe at dcn.org Sat Nov 3 20:48:45 2007 From: jhframe at dcn.org (Jim Frame) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:48:45 -0700 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] Fall Techops Meeting In-Reply-To: <472A3417.3030803@omsoft.com> References: <472A3417.3030803@omsoft.com> Message-ID: <472D411D.9090302@dcn.org> After suggesting November 15, I realize that I have a conflicting school Site Council meeting. That's no reason to change the date, but I won't be able to make it to the TechOps meeting. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Frame jhframe at dcn.org (530) 756-8584 756-8201 (FAX) Frame Surveying & Mapping 609 A Street Davis, CA 95616 -----------------------< Davis Community Network >------------------- From msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us Sun Nov 4 06:23:00 2007 From: msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us (msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 06:23 -0800 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] Web Activity Summary Message-ID: <200711041423.lA4EN2HF001658@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> 1,526,864 requests 13,352,909,854 bytes transferred Subdomains by bytes transferred ------------------------------- 1 peanutscollectorclub.com 4,103,170,018 30.73 2 gracevalley.org 978,683,769 7.33 3 coffer.com 823,329,148 6.17 4 vme 567,420,859 4.25 5 lamppostpizza.com 467,187,021 3.50 6 explorit.org 445,322,914 3.34 7 dorritie 379,794,301 2.84 8 daviscoop.com 297,074,363 2.22 9 warbird.com 266,203,902 1.99 10 palmsplayhouse.com 265,845,169 1.99 11 gvcc 253,763,097 1.90 12 rdhobby 228,523,183 1.71 13 members.dcn.org 227,182,142 1.70 14 eatwell.com 204,832,962 1.53 15 DCN 180,262,379 1.35 16 klsabin 167,423,989 1.25 17 explorit 164,898,610 1.23 18 gizmo 150,324,025 1.13 19 multiwareinc.com 140,060,917 1.05 20 rentcomputers.com 134,136,114 1.00 Subdomains by requests ---------------------- 1 coffer.com 498,778 32.67% 2 peanutscollectorclub.com 246,594 16.15% 3 gracevalley.org 113,801 7.45% 4 vme 68,116 4.46% 5 lamppostpizza.com 58,546 3.83% 6 DCN 50,836 3.33% 7 explorit.org 49,334 3.23% 8 palmsplayhouse.com 32,322 2.12% 9 davisairporter.com 22,945 1.50% 10 rentcomputers.com 22,899 1.50% 11 explorit 19,901 1.30% 12 birchlane 18,597 1.22% 13 gvcc 17,469 1.14% 14 members.dcn.org 16,278 1.07% From omrob at omsoft.com Wed Nov 7 10:40:47 2007 From: omrob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson @ Omsoft) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:40:47 -0800 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] Fall Techops Meeting In-Reply-To: <472C93DE.3000902@dcn.org> References: <472A3417.3030803@omsoft.com> <472C93DE.3000902@dcn.org> Message-ID: <473206AF.50307@omsoft.com> Good point! At this point, Ill go ahead and can this meeting as I ve not heard back from any one else. If the Board wants me to put one together in the future, just let me know. Thanks a bunch RAN Jim Frame wrote: > Robert Nickerson @ Omsoft wrote: > >> Its time for the fall quarterly meeting of the DCN Tech Ops committee >> at Sudwerk Possible dates could be Thurs Nov 15th or 22nd 5:15 PM > > > Unless we're planning to have a turkey dinner at the meeting, I vote > for the 15th. (The 22nd is Thanksgiving.) > From msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us Sun Nov 11 06:23:00 2007 From: msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us (msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:23 -0800 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] Web Activity Summary Message-ID: <200711111423.lABENKvI002607@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> 1,527,297 requests 13,100,254,240 bytes transferred Subdomains by bytes transferred ------------------------------- 1 peanutscollectorclub.com 2,891,130,020 22.07 2 gracevalley.org 1,178,043,473 8.99 3 coffer.com 859,186,344 6.56 4 vme 667,619,451 5.10 5 lamppostpizza.com 465,675,734 3.55 6 dorritie 458,297,828 3.50 7 explorit.org 408,930,221 3.12 8 members.dcn.org 348,246,532 2.66 9 daviscoop.com 307,380,509 2.35 10 gvcc 296,713,773 2.26 11 warbird.com 258,800,667 1.98 12 palmsplayhouse.com 256,165,357 1.96 13 eatwell.com 216,856,163 1.66 14 DCN 197,452,713 1.51 15 explorit 193,567,484 1.48 16 rdhobby 192,491,565 1.47 17 klsabin 162,168,002 1.24 18 gizmo 161,495,326 1.23 19 davisairporter.com 150,178,666 1.15 20 saylor 148,482,775 1.13 21 birchlane 142,328,154 1.09 22 multiwareinc.com 140,048,174 1.07 23 rentcomputers.com 131,110,719 1.00 Subdomains by requests ---------------------- 1 coffer.com 514,028 33.66% 2 peanutscollectorclub.com 181,589 11.89% 3 gracevalley.org 122,465 8.02% 4 vme 76,597 5.02% 5 lamppostpizza.com 58,569 3.83% 6 DCN 54,518 3.57% 7 explorit.org 47,226 3.09% 8 palmsplayhouse.com 33,677 2.21% 9 davisairporter.com 27,411 1.79% 10 gvcc 21,506 1.41% 11 explorit 20,903 1.37% 12 members.dcn.org 20,309 1.33% 13 birchlane 18,195 1.19% 14 gizmo 17,426 1.14% 15 dorritie 16,436 1.08% From msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us Sun Nov 18 06:23:00 2007 From: msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us (msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:23 -0800 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] Web Activity Summary Message-ID: <200711181423.lAIENBvo002497@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> 1,482,313 requests 12,748,337,017 bytes transferred Subdomains by bytes transferred ------------------------------- 1 peanutscollectorclub.com 2,848,249,799 22.34 2 gracevalley.org 1,022,298,503 8.02 3 coffer.com 840,437,291 6.59 4 vme 618,402,545 4.85 5 explorit.org 519,782,458 4.08 6 lamppostpizza.com 507,567,333 3.98 7 dorritie 504,188,043 3.95 8 daviscoop.com 318,164,099 2.50 9 gvcc 286,803,549 2.25 10 palmsplayhouse.com 280,408,250 2.20 11 eatwell.com 273,922,835 2.15 12 multiwareinc.com 263,310,957 2.07 13 warbird.com 244,763,200 1.92 14 members.dcn.org 195,961,079 1.54 15 explorit 187,401,616 1.47 16 rdhobby 177,622,303 1.39 17 DCN 177,121,873 1.39 18 davisairporter.com 167,695,537 1.32 19 klsabin 144,869,028 1.14 20 gizmo 139,226,026 1.09 21 birchlane 130,753,733 1.03 22 bang 130,013,564 1.02 Subdomains by requests ---------------------- 1 coffer.com 506,591 34.18% 2 peanutscollectorclub.com 177,460 11.97% 3 gracevalley.org 114,470 7.72% 4 vme 73,126 4.93% 5 lamppostpizza.com 64,685 4.36% 6 DCN 49,158 3.32% 7 explorit.org 44,775 3.02% 8 palmsplayhouse.com 36,354 2.45% 9 davisairporter.com 31,264 2.11% 10 gvcc 21,979 1.48% 11 explorit 18,232 1.23% 12 birchlane 17,554 1.18% 13 dorritie 17,439 1.18% 14 eatwell.com 15,751 1.06% From msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us Sun Nov 25 06:23:00 2007 From: msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us (msmosaic at dcn.davis.ca.us) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:23 -0800 Subject: [DCN-TechOps] Web Activity Summary Message-ID: <200711251423.lAPEN5vo015436@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us> 1,333,222 requests 11,729,580,088 bytes transferred Subdomains by bytes transferred ------------------------------- 1 peanutscollectorclub.com 2,965,059,986 25.28 2 gracevalley.org 909,370,224 7.75 3 coffer.com 746,842,240 6.37 4 vme 524,078,022 4.47 5 explorit.org 497,263,523 4.24 6 dorritie 383,272,939 3.27 7 lamppostpizza.com 382,447,662 3.26 8 daviscoop.com 310,034,409 2.64 9 warbird.com 307,547,611 2.62 10 gvcc 258,475,614 2.20 11 palmsplayhouse.com 243,497,199 2.08 12 eatwell.com 235,530,524 2.01 13 rdhobby 218,980,023 1.87 14 explorit 192,817,763 1.64 15 davisairporter.com 185,960,920 1.59 16 DCN 178,606,988 1.52 17 vetsoft 164,671,853 1.40 18 klsabin 156,618,150 1.34 19 gizmo 155,004,201 1.32 20 members.dcn.org 140,176,276 1.20 21 multiwareinc.com 117,615,512 1.00 Subdomains by requests ---------------------- 1 coffer.com 453,939 34.05% 2 peanutscollectorclub.com 185,773 13.93% 3 gracevalley.org 102,739 7.71% 4 vme 57,714 4.33% 5 lamppostpizza.com 47,516 3.56% 6 DCN 46,902 3.52% 7 explorit.org 41,366 3.10% 8 davisairporter.com 33,939 2.55% 9 palmsplayhouse.com 31,607 2.37% 10 gvcc 18,866 1.42% 11 explorit 18,181 1.36% 12 warbird.com 15,498 1.16% 13 gizmo 14,876 1.12% 14 eatwell.com 14,688 1.10%